Question Vaccination, part 4.

[Pat Robinson]

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• As of May 2004, all 50 states allow vaccination exemptions for medical reasons; 48 states allow exemptions for religious reasons; and 20 states allow exemptions for philosophical reasons.

Here is Vaccine Exemption information for EVERY state... in the US: http://www.vaccineeducation.org/exemptions.htm
http://www.immunizationinfo.org/vaccines/state-requirements
http://www.nvic.org/vaccine-laws.aspx

"United States Exemption forums by state":
http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm
http://www.mothering.com/community/forum/list/47

Exemption forms by state: http://www.unhinderedliving.com/statevaccexemp.html

 

• $2 Billion dollars has been paid out by the government's "National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program" for thousands of serious injuries due to vaccination, including deaths:

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statisticsreports.html#Claims

 

Forget autism and thimerosal and all that. Just look at how vaccines were tested. Note the sample size of the "research" studies.

• Vaccines are tested before marketing, on very few children. Obviously, most parents are not willing to give consent to having brand new vaccines experimented for research on their own child.

 

• Read the ingredients, adverse reactions and SAMPLE SIZE in the pharmaceutical manufacturer's package inserts?

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm#Top

 

• Know that pharmaceutical manufacturers have no financial liability to make the vaccines safe. Manufactures are legally immune from being sued for the dangers of vaccines.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/462542_2

 

• The best "reputable" information out there that can be used as a valid reason NOT to vaccinate, IMO, is the CDC's own "Pink Book" http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/default.htm and the pharmaceutical manufacturer's product inserts. http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm#Top

 

 

What about the actual incidence of disease per the CDC? Out of a population of 300 million people (72 million children) in the United States.

You can check the CDC site. But, here are the hard numbers for 2006. This is for the last week of the year..... this is the total number of cases reported to the CDC for 2006.....(copied from another source)

Total reported cases to the CDC:

Disease Cases:

• Diptheria 0
• Measles 51
• Mumps 6,439
• Rubella 8
• Congenital rubella 1
• Tetanus 32
• Hib (under 5)
• Sero b-9
• Non sero b-94
• Unknown b-230

Out of a population of 295 million people in the United States!!

• Check how likely it is that you'll ever get any of these diseases, for any year you prefer to examine.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/mmwr%5Fnd/
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/wk/mm5853.pdf

http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/timese...
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5853a1.htm
http://wonder.cdc.gov/mmwr/mmwrmorb2.asp?mmwr_year=2009&mmwr_we...

Educate before you vaccinate.

 

‎***The most important thing, imo, if one does choose vaccination is to insist on single disease vaccines, and only one disease exposure at a time. (These must be special ordered, generally. And may not be covered by insurance.) And insist on a minimum of 4 weeks after any viral/infections illness before any vaccination; and a minimum of 4 weeks between each vaccine disease exposure. And avoid live virus vaccines.***

 

• ‎"Post-marketing research" is what they call the collection of information of side-effects on children vaccinated in the general public. Your child. However, that is dependent upon pediatricians accurately reporting vaccine side-effects.
• All side-effects including a fever, sustained crying, disturbed sleep, etc. is required by law to be reported. MANY side effects are not reported, however.

Here are many medical studies elucidating the Post-Marketing Surveillance: http://vaers.hhs.gov/resources/bibliographyfiles/vaersbib200606.pdf

 

You aren't going to find THE "Right" answer. There is only what you feel is right for you and your family. People believe in different things in which to trust, or to keep them from fear. The journey to discovering what motivates you and upon what premises you make your decisions is an arduous one in parenting.

• In regards to vaccines, we, medical people, knew that children were *getting* polio FROM the vaccine for 40 some years - before we changed to an injectable form which cost a slight bit more.

For how many years have we, the medical system, injected a known toxin, mercury, into young children in ever increasing frequency and amounts?

• Yes, you can contract the disease *from* some of the vaccines.
• And you can contract the disease despite some (all/any) of the vaccines.

• A whole other variable is the assault and unknown damage on the developing immune system by the vaccination program before age 2.

There are risks to not vaccinating. There are risks to vaccinating. There are no sure bets in life. But, you make your best guess based upon what you choose to believe in.

Instead of an issue of *fear*, I made the decision based upon *Trust*. I trust our amazing bodies to have evolved to address diseases which are acquired naturally, more than I trust our medical system to create a "solution" which is appropriate and safe for every body.

Question everything. Make an informed choice.

 

Here are the statistics from the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Administration.

• $2.2 Billion dollars has been paid out (since 1988) by the government's "National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program" for thousands of serious injuries due to vaccination, including deaths:

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statisticsreports.html#Claims

 

• The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program was created because the pharmaceutical manufacturers have no financial liability to make the vaccines safe.
  
  
  • Know that pharmaceutical manufacturers have no financial liability to make the vaccines safe. Manufactures are legally immune from being sued for the dangers of vaccines.
  
  
  http://www.law2.byu.edu/lawreview/archives/1980/1/app.pdf
  http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/153871303769201824
  http://www.shoemakerassociates.com/index.php?option=com_content&...
  http://www23.us.archive.org/stream/comprehensivechi00unit/comprehen...
  

 

From the CDC's website: Serious Adverse Events

• "Overall, 14.2% of all reports received in VAERS during 1991--2001 described serious adverse events (10) (Table 9). During 1991--2001, reports of deaths ranged from 1.4%--2.3%, and reports of life-threatening illness ranged from 1.4%--2.8% of all adverse event reports.

 

• During the previous 3 years when distribution of vaccines reached the highest level, the annual percentage of reports of death was stable, approximately 1.5% of all adverse event reports.
• The reports of life-threatening illness were also stable throughout the years except for a peak of 2.8% in 1999, which reflected RRV-TV and intussusception incident that occurred in that year. "

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5201a1.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/ss/ss5201.pdf

Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS): http://vaers.hhs.gov/index

 

Have YOU read the ingredients, adverse reactions and SAMPLE SIZE in the vaccine manufacturer's package inserts?

• Here is a link to each vaccine's package insert. The package insert is a document provided along with a prescription medication to provide additional information about that drug.

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm#Top

 

• There is no known "immunity" titer for the diseases for all people. That is why they give so many, "just in case" the first several doses were ineffective for your body.

But, fewer of the doses might have been "enough" for some people. Or the many doses may still be ineffective at providing protection. We just don't know because there is little scientific research on large numbers of people, over a long duration before marketing (new) vaccines.

• Most outbreaks of disease are in vaccinated people! The adult dose and the children's dose of most vaccines are the same because they don't know how much is the amount needed.

 

Table of Vaccine Ingredients from the CDC's website: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/ex...

*Where “thimerosal” is marked with an asterisk (*) it indicates that the product should be considered equivalent to thimerosal-free products. This vaccine may contain trace amounts (<0.3 mcg) of mercury left after post-production thimerosal removal, but these amounts have no biological effect. JAMA 1999;282(18) and JAMA 2000;283(16)

 

Seven (7) pages of vaccine ingredients, listed by ingredient - from the CDC's website: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/ex...

 

From the CDC site, Common substances found in vaccines include:

*Aluminum gels or salts of aluminum which are added as adjuvants to help the vaccine stimulate a better response. Adjuvants help promote an earlier, more potent response, and more persistent immune response to the vaccine.

*Antibiotics which are added to some vaccines to prevent the growth of germs (bacteria) during production and storage of the vaccine. No vaccine produced in the United States contains penicillin.

*Egg protein is found in influenza and yellow fever vaccines, which are prepared using chicken eggs. Ordinarily, persons who are able to eat eggs or egg products safely can receive these vaccines.

*Formaldehyde is used to inactivate bacterial products for toxoid vaccines, (these are vaccines that use an inactive bacterial toxin to produce immunity.) It is also used to kill unwanted viruses and bacteria that might contaminate the vaccine during production. Most formaldehyde is removed from the vaccine before it is packaged.

*Monosodium glutamate (MSG) and 2-phenoxy-ethanol which are used as stabilizers in a few vaccines to help the vaccine remain unchanged when the vaccine is exposed to heat, light, acidity, or humidity.

*Thimerosal is a mercury-containing preservative that is added to vials of vaccine that contain more than one dose to prevent contamination and growth of potentially harmful bacteria.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm

 

 

From PEDIATRICS the official peer-reviewed journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics:

"Parents should be reassured that quantities of mercury, aluminum, and formaldehyde contained in vaccines are likely to be harmless on the basis of exposure studies in humans or experimental studies in animals. Although severe anaphylactic reactions may occur rarely after receipt of vaccines that contain sufficient quantities of egg proteins (eg, influenza, yellow fever) or gelatin (eg, MMRII)."

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/112/6/1394.full

 

• Actually, infectious diseases declined steadily for decades prior to vaccinations.

http://www.vaclib.org/intro/present/index.htm#8
http://theatlasoflife.com/2010/06/08/natural-disease-decline-immuni...
http://www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html
http://www.relfe.com/vaccine.html
http://barbfeick.com/vaccinations/Graphs/big_decreases.htm
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

 

• Fully vaccinated populations have experienced epidemics. The medical literature has a surprising number of studies documenting vaccine failure. Measles, mumps, small pox, polio and Hib outbreaks have all occurred in vaccinated populations. [11, 12, 13, 14 ,15] http://www.relfe.com/vaccine.html

Question everything. Make an informed choice. I was shocked too!

 

• Actually, the MILLIONS of children vaccinated with live viruses are the ones shedding and exposing the others with compromised immune systems, such as cancer patients, transplant patients, and young children.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2615200/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15954490
http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2008/02/24/secondary-transmissi...
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5213a1.htm

 

• The research below from the US National Medical Library represents 400 under-reported, minimized and otherwise overlooked peer-reviewed data on adverse effects associated with vaccination.

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/page/vaccine-research

 

In 1989 the CDC reported: "Among school-aged children, [measles] outbreaks have occurred in schools with vaccination levels of greater than 98 percent.[16] [They] have occurred in all parts of the country, including areas that had not reported measles for years."[17] The CDC even reported a measles outbreak in a documented 100 percent vaccinated population. [18]
http://www.relfe.com/vaccine.html

 

• U.S. doctors report thousands of serious vaccine reactions each year including hundreds of deaths and permanent disabilities.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5201a1.htm#tab3
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5201a1.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/MMWR/PDF/ss/ss5201.pdf

 

Show me the science of the safety and efficacy of mandatory vaccination.

• Of course, vaccines are only *tested* on healthy children. And many children who receive vaccines are not optimally healthy. Many vaccines are tested one at a time. But, pediatricians give many vaccines at one time.

 

• Some vaccines are tested alongside other injected vaccines, so it is really difficult to tell which vaccine caused a side effect. And they only follow up "vaccine side-effects" for about 10-30 days post vaccination.

 

• However, many vaccine injuries have patterns of presenting 30 days+ after vaccination. Basically, there is no long term scientific research on the safety of vaccination, before marketing.

THIS is the article which started me on my own vaccine research journey: http://mothering.com/health/show-us-the-science

 

‎1974 Childhood Vaccination Schedule

• 2 months: DTP, TOPV (trivalent oral polio virus)
  

• 4 months: DTP, TOPV

• 6 months: DTP, TOPV

• 1 year: Measles, TB test

• 1-12 years: Rubella, Mumps

• 1 1/2 years: DTP, TOPV

• 4-6 years: DTP, TOPV

(Total = 14)

***The most important thing, imo, if one does choose vaccination is to insist on single disease vaccines, and only one disease exposure at a time. (These must be special ordered, generally. And may not be covered by insurance.)

And insist on a minimum of 4 weeks after any viral/infection illness before any vaccination; and a minimum of 4 weeks between each vaccine disease exposure. And avoid live virus vaccines which have the most common reactions.***

Here are several alternative vaccine schedules from

Dr. Kenneth Bock, M.D.
Dr. Stephanie Cave, M.D.
Dr. Donald W. Miller, Jr., MD
Dr. Robert W. Sears, MD

1974 Childhood Vaccination Schedule listed.

Educate Before You Vaccinate

http://www.toomanytoosoon.org/schedules.html

I trust each is able to choose for her own family.


Instead of an issue of fear, I made the decision based upon *Trust*. I trust our amazing bodies to address diseases which are acquired naturally, more than I trust our contemporary pharmaceutical industry to create a "solution" which is appropriate and safe for every  body.  I was a critical care nurse for too many years not to be aware of the fallibility of our medical system.  I trust my body with reverence!

There are risks to not vaccinating. There are risks to vaccinating. There are no sure bets in life. But, you make your best guess based upon what you choose to believe in.

 

Actually, Life Expectancy by Country 2011 - United States at #50, according to a list from the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) which monitors which country has the longest life expectancy.

The US is at #50, while Monaco ranks number one.

In the US for 2011, the average life expectancy is 78.37 years old while Monaco gives just over another decade of life for humans with a number near 90, the life expectancy in that country per the CIA is 89.73 years old.

The US is bested by may European and Asian countries, even Bosnia and Herzegovina has about a half-year of life expectancy for citizens over the United States average.

Other countries of interest.

Japan is #9, Switzerland is #15, and the United Kingdom is #28.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankord...

 

• Please read the CDC's own links above. The best "reputable" information out there that can be used as a valid reason NOT to vaccinate, IMO, is the CDC's own "Pink Book" http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/default.htm and
• the pharmaceutical manufacturer's product inserts. http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm#Top

 

 

Check out GreenMedInfo.com - The World's Largest, Evidence-Based, Open Source, Natural Medicine Database with 18,847 articles indexed from the U.S. National Library of Medicine.

GreenMedInfo.com provides free and convenient access to the biomedical research on the therapeutic value of natural substances and modalities in disease prevention and treatment.

This research represents under-reported, minimized and otherwise overlooked peer-reviewed data on adverse effects associated with vaccination: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/page/vaccine-research

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[Pat Robinson]

A member asks, "I stopped vaxing my kids when my son was about 18 months. My daughter who is 4 years older than him took vaccines like a pro, never a problem. I didn't know any better. Believed the Dr...etc. But with my son...he would get really high fevers and lethargic for a week after the vaccines and that's when I started looking into them and decided to stop until I found out what was going on. I don't want my kids damaged for some herd immunity theory.....to protect others.

We are going on a trip to Mexico later this year and my husband suggested that I get the kids up to date on their vaccines..."just in case". Does anyone here follow a delayed schedule or now if a delayed schedule isn't as harmful or just as harmful? I don't want to get them up to date. :("


REPLY: How long are you going for? Are you going to an area without sanitation? Will the children be separate from you while there?

You can check the CDC for actual disease incidence in the location to which you are traveling, and selectively choose vaccines, if desired.

I would not want to assault our son's immune system with diseases and toxins prior to traveling to an area with new germs to which there are no vaccines (such as Denge fever, West Nile, etc) Basically, there are going to be diseases wherever you go. I want our child's immune system to be strong, not weakened by a recent attack of diseases it must fight (ie. vaccines), while concurrently having to deal with the injected toxins.

Dh traveled to India and received no vaccines. Most vaccines require multiple doses in order to demonstrate a titer change, and it takes weeks or months for that to happen. Multiple vaccines at a time further attacks the immune system and we felt much safer without dh getting vaccine toxins before traveling.

I would take precautions to support and strengthen the immune system prior to traveling and take things to support any illnesses (vaccine type illnesses or non-vaccine type illnesses). For instance, I'd focus on vit A and D, Omega 3 fatty acids, avoiding inflammatory foods which tax the immune system (such as gluten and commercial dairy). And consuming whole food probiotics.

I sent bottled lactobacillus with dh when he traveled. And homeopathic Arsenicum Album. I would take water kefir along, also. And some Pepto Bismal. I had severe diarrhea and cramping in Cancun on a trip once and thought I would die from the pain. The local doctor gave me Pepto Bismal, lol. I thought he was crazy, but it worked! So, I don't travel out of the country without it now. :-)

Avoiding fruit that can't be peeled and drinking only bottled water are the key issues.

Pat

[Pat Robinson]

Here is the product insert for Gardasil: http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/g/gardasil/gardasil_p...

See Section 6.1: "safety was evaluated using vaccination report cards (VRC)-aided surveillance for 14 days after each injection of GARDASIL"

Table 1 and Table 5: only 5088 women between the ages of 9 -26 were tested for the above "safety".

Section 13.1 Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, Impairment of Fertility:
GARDASIL has not been evaluated for the potential to cause carcinogenicity or genotoxicity.

Section 14 Clinical Trials: "Efficacy" has only been tested in people age 16-26. Efficacy is lack of genital or vulvar cells within 12 months.

[Pat Robinson]

Vaccine manufactures are legally immune from vaccine safety liability. Back about 1987 they were sued so much that the pharmaceutical companies were going to stop producing some/many vaccines. So, the government granted immunity for vaccine dangers to the mass public.

The Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) was developed by the US government to decide claims of damages, injury and death. VAERS is co-sponsored by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)* - proponents of mandating vaccines. And VAERS pays out for damages if VAERS decides the injury was vaccine related. https://vaers.hhs.gov/about/index

Due to under-reporting of vaccine injuries by medical professionals, there are only a subset of injuries reported to VAERS.

"The median under-reporting rate across the 37 studies was 94% (interquartile range 82-98%)."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16689555

*see revolving door between FDA and pharmaceutical companies and funding sources for FDA pharmaceutical approval.

"Vaccine preventable diseases" were declining well before vaccines were introduced. Many helpful links here: http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/question-vaccination

Pat