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Here is a copy of an old post of mine about the difficulty we had about this decision. Our findings were that the most dangerous diseases had the shortest vaccine history. And there was no way we could inject new vaccines into our son before his immune system was more fully developed, (after age 2). The "safest" vaccines were for diseases for which there were so few incidents as to not be worried. Another consideration is the exemption laws and your potential schooling choices. I would never subject our son to multiple, multi-dose vaccines all at once to enter school.

The most important thing, imo, if one does choose vaccines is to insist on single disease vaccines and only one disease exposure at a time. (These must be special ordered, generally. And may not be covered by insurance.) And insist on a minimum of 4 weeks after any viral/infections illness before any vaccination; and a minimum of 4 weeks between each vaccine disease exposure.

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You aren't going to find THE "Right" answer. There is only what you feel is right for you and your family. People believe in different things in which to trust, or to keep them from fear. The journey to discovering what motivates you and upon what premises you make your decisions is an arduous one in parenting.

 

Personally, I have 17 years of critical care experience, and I understand how *unscientific* medical practice and medical science is. True medical care is an Art, as much, if not more than a Science. I have seen so, so many "best practice protocols" subsequently disavowed as having some (previously unknown) danger, AFTER patients have utilized (and suffered from) them. We, the medical people, did *to* people, with all good intentions and full faith in the system of Science. However, science really is quite blind in its research; you can only learn what you are seeking to find. The myopia of separating the mind/body/spirit is a huge aspect of the limitations of medicine.

And we have the System of Medicine, embodied by the (fiscal) monopoly of the AMA. I can only say that if you go to a surgeon, he will use the tools available to him: surgery. If you go to a internist, he will use the tools available to him: pills. If you go to a psychologist: a DSM-whatever diagnosis is utilized. They can only utilize what they know and what they are taught.

Unfortunately, what is *taught* isn't necessarily current with what is known outside of their specialty. There is such a specialization in *parts* of the body that there is no *whole* patient. This isn't a system of *health*, but of illness, disease, and deficit focused care.

So, we, medical people, have developed means of dealing with discrete illness and disease, rather than focusing on maximizing the *health* of the whole person. Because we can, because there is a market for 'fixing' a problem, because it is quicker, easier, because if it doesn't work the patient just comes back, and comes back, and comes back. A system that self-perpetuates is not working to eliminate the need for itself.

In regards to vaccines, we, medical people, knew that people were *getting* polio FROM the vaccine for 40 some years, before we changed to an injectable form which cost a slight bit more. For how many years have we, the medical system, injected a known toxin, mercury, into young children in ever increasing frequency and amounts?

And giving hepatitis vaccine to ALL newborns! Newborns who can't get hepatitis unless they share blood with another infected person? These types of practices, mandated by the CDC are not building credibility that the interest of the *whole* INDIVIDUAL matters. Perhaps there is some "herd immunity" benefit that the CDC is championing. But at the expense of *individuals* with polio, deaths due to hepatitis vaccine, and high mercury contamination, etc.?

So, I have a problem with the System of Vaccinations. Additionally, I am anal; and we actually did the calculations for each disease against which there is a vaccine.

We calculated the risks, taking into consideration the risk of contracting the disease within the US population of 300 million, and the occurrence in our young son's age range, and then extrapolating the likelihood, by percentage, of developing the most severe complications (encephalitis, meningitis and death). And the risks were so, so minimal that the uncertain, but untrusted risk of the vaccines was outweighed by the facts of the disease's relative "danger". Basically, it was a crap shoot for the odds of vaccination vs. living with an occasional disease exposure.

But, we maximize our health by many means. And we avoid compromising our health within the health care system. And we are knowledgeable about homeopathic, natural and alternative health care and we trust our bodies to be better able to handle the assault of naturally occurring disease, more than we trust our bodies to handle the assault on the immune system of injecting multiple diseases at one time, repeatedly, prior to the full development of the immune system.

A whole other variable is the assault and unknown damage on the developing immune system by the vaccination program before age 2. Science doesn't quite understand all this grey matter (brain and immune system) yet.

The most damning source of information was the CDC's own site. (And their "Pink Book")

 

  • Their documentation of the actual incidence of disease and the incidence of complications is minuscule for many of the diseases, despite the proclamations of all the dangers of the disease.
  • And the product insert for each vaccine which lists the ingredients, contraindications, warnings, side effects, etc. was informative (and disconcerting).
  • And for those diseases with the most dangerous incidence, the vaccines are very *NEW* and under tested; and the system has failed too many individuals to place our son's life in the manufacturer's 'post marketing research' trial.
  • (The actual number of children upon whom they test the vaccines prior to mass vaccination is very small, obviously.)
  • But the manufacturer extrapolates "safety" based upon a short duration of follow up, of only healthy children in the trial. And complications and reactions are notoriously under/unreported. And, and, and....

  • Yes, you can contract the disease *from* some of the vaccines.
  • And you can contract the disease despite some (all/any) of the vaccines.

  • There is no known "immunity" titer for the diseases for all people. That is why they give so many, "just in case" the first several doses were ineffective for your body. But, fewer of the doses might have been "enough" for some people. Or the many doses may still be ineffective at providing protection. We just don't know because there is little scientific research on large numbers of people, over a long duration before marketing (new) vaccines.
  • Most outbreaks of disease are in vaccinated people! The adult dose and the children's dose of most vaccines are the same because they don't know how much is the amount needed.


There are risks to not vaccinating. There are risks to vaccinating. There are no sure bets in life. But, you make your best guess based upon what you choose to believe in.

 

Here is a link for the drug insert for each vaccine. http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm Click on each vaccine (blue link by brand name) to view the ingredients, side effects, contraindications, etc.

Note the sample size of the "research" studies.

  • Vaccines are tested before marketing, on very few children. Obviously, most parents are not willing to give consent to having vaccines tested for research on their children. Most testing is/was done on small groups of children in HMOs in California. Then they extrapolate the benefits and risks to the other 72,000,000 children receiving vaccines each year.

  • Of course, vaccines are only *tested* on healthy children. And many children who receive vaccines are not optimally healthy.
  • Many vaccines are tested one at a time. But, pediatricians give many vaccines at one time.
  • Some vaccines are tested alongside other injected vaccines, so it is really difficult to tell which vaccine caused a side effect.
  • And they only follow up "vaccine side-effects" for about 10-30 days post vaccination. However, many vaccine injuries have patterns of presenting 30 days+ after vaccination.
  • Basically, there is no long term scientific research on the safety of vaccination, before marketing.

"Post-marketing research" is what they call the collection of information of side-effects on children vaccinated by pediatricians. However, that is dependent upon pediatricians accurately reporting vaccine side-effects. All side-effects including a fever, sustained crying, disturbed sleep, etc. is required by law to be reported. MANY side effects are not reported, however.

  • Have you been to the government's own site regarding Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System? VAERS.org. Of course, correlation (within hours, days or weeks) "is not" an indicator of causation. Yeah right. It does when there are repetitive patterns of children having serious complications. And many, many "adverse events" are considered so "normal" they are not reported. And many more are dismissed as "unrelated to the vaccine" and therefore not reported as a "vaccine reaction".
  • By 2007, the *government* fund had paid out $1.8 billion in damages to 1500 individuals and/or parents for vaccine injuries.

 


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Oh, and btw, the manufacturers have no financial liability to make the vaccines safe, they are legally immune from being sued for the dangers of vaccines.



Instead of an issue of *fear*, I made the decision based upon *Trust*. I trust our amazing bodies to have evolved to address diseases which are acquired naturally, more than I trust our medical system to create a "solution" which is appropriate and safe for every body. I was a critical care nurse for too many years not to be aware of the fallibility of our medical system. I trust our body to be healthy!

What is the saying "Don't try to fool Mother Nature".

I just ran across this vaccination schedule. The sheer quantity of disease exposure was astounding to me. About 28 injections and 42 different disease exposures, most before age 2 when the immune system is immature and developing.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5851a6.htm

 

 

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