*beet test: I've not eaten red beets in 8 months or more. When i did I had light pink pee. DD had reddish pee, thought it was blood till I remembered she'd eaten beets!

*low stomach acid - no idea if it is low or not. Probably not optimal though.

* digestive enzymes: better than it was 9 years ago.  I had to take enzymes for a couple of years with every meal every day.  Now I haven't had any in 3-4 years.


* All three of my children have been sensitive to foods I have eaten while nursing.  Dairy being the biggest one, but also green bell peppers.

* Haven't had antibiotics since 7 years ago. As a kid though, I had them 4-10/x a year, which was penicillin based and I am allergic to that mould now.


- low serotonin - hence medication

- transsulfuration - Sulfa anything makes me quite ill. I feel nauseated for the first hour after taking MSM (for example), then the hour after that I usually end up puking.  Too many eggs also make me feel ill.

- vit D have recently forgotten to take my D3, not much sun here either

- glutathione - I can't handle any caffeine. I get instantly wired, anxious, nauseated, then crash hard.

-300 mg Bupropion @ Breakfast
- 40 mg Escitalopram @ dinner
- Vit B-complex (50mg) @ breakfast
-Fish oil - one capsule right now, @ breakfast
- D3 (2000 IU) @ breakfast

- Vit C (1000 mg) @ breakfast

- Zinc (25 mg) @ breakfast


Magne (19 m) - nurses often. chewable C. Starting to really want solid foods more than breastmilk

Freja (nearly 4) - nurses once every few days. Chewable C. Sometimes a multi vit. Practically a vegetarian.

Vidar (6.5) -  Does not nurse. Chewable C daily. sometimes a multi vit.  Eats only bread, rice, and eggs -- fruit is usually okay for him. Carrots are only veggie he'll eat.
I'm still reading up on all this and may have some things mixed up. 

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Check back in, in 24 hours and I'll try mine. :)

You are so funny! Willing to down gallons of kefir but not a few bites of happy cabbage. :-D

We've been off dairy so long that I'm not sure any of us will be able to find kefir palatable--that tart flavor, in my mind, is so connected to vegetables, I'm not sure I can make it fit with a fatty drink.

Pat Robinson said:
Check back in, in 24 hours and I'll try mine. :)

So I tried some coconut water kefir today. Ugh. Very strange flavour.

Maybe I would be better trying some juice kefir instead. So many rave about ginger and lemon kefir...

Getting more used to my sour cabbage though. I can eat it straight, but i don't mind it in my smoothie either.

Will kefir give the same effect in a smoothie? I don't think I can stand this coconut stuff. Yet.
You are alive! I was beginning to wonder. LOL I'll go take a bite of my sauerkraut right now. Ok, I did. After I tossed a couple pieces from the top with mold spots on them. :-) It was crunchy and sweet-tart.

Was this homemade coconut water kefir? You only need a tablespoon for huge microbial benefits.

I've pondered the benefits of kefir in the smoothie. I think it much better than no kefir. Might change the ph enough to kill a few microbials. But, we add it to smoothies and juice regularly.

LOL Yup, still alive. It was a very busy week with appointments galore. Glad you tried your cabbage!

Yes, I made the kefir with a starter kit package (not grains) with some coconut water. Just a TBL huh? I think I can manage that okay. I had read on another site that like a cup was recommended. No way I could do that. LOL.

Would you take just one TBL a day, or a couple times a day?

I liked the flavour the coconut kefir added to the shake anyway.

I received my package of fCLO and high vitamin butter and some crushed kelp. I tried those in a shake and bleh. No way. But just fine on a spoon, followed by some shake. I don't think my kids will like it though.

I also got a magnesium and a selenium supplement. I am pretty sure I am already noticing a difference from starting those!

Now just waiting for my water kefir grains to arrive from someone in Denmark.

I'm alive too! :-)

Try the kelp in tomato juice. Must stir and drink it up quickly, as it becomes sludge.

Smoothies, CLO, kelp and kefir. Oh my!! :D

Glad you're still here Pat!
LOL I'm (pretty much) over my fear. Must read the Wild Fermentation book. Must read the Wild Fermentation book. Must read the Wild Fermentation book. Must read the Wild Fermentation book.


I checked a swedish online bookstore and they actually sell that book! As well as one of the unschooling books.
I am going to read further on the site... but headaches and stiffness, are those some typical symptoms from starting the kefir and fermented cabbage and all the ohter things? i guess more for detox?
Yes, sounds like detox. Be sure you are getting adequate selenium and vit. C. Folate, magnesium and B12 are important also.

Yes, they are apart of my daily vitamins. How long will the headaches last? approximately?

Pat Robinson said:
Yes, sounds like detox. Be sure you are getting adequate selenium and vit. C. Folate, magnesium and B12 are important also.


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