I'm sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, I searched but didn't find any answers.


I'm having muscle ticks ever-so-often that I can associate with magnesium deficiency.  A supplement like natural calm, even if very small amounts such as 1/8 tsp, stops the ticks within about 20 minutes but it always tears my stomach up.  I eat magnesium rich foods with no problem.  Many of the foods listed as high magnesium on Pat's list are staples here.


Where do I begin to try to figure out the cause and try to help remedy it?

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what exactly do you mean by "tears my stomach up" ?  cramping? heartburn? or some other kind of pain?

what about trying topical magnesium oil?  or mag phos cell salts ?


could the ticks instead be related to depleted calcium?



I haven't tried topical mag oil because things like epsom salt baths, even in small amounts, have the same effect.


I've never tried cell salts for myself, I've got my son on them for his teeth.


I assume it isn't a calcium issue as I take Dr. Ron's Calcium hypoxy......  I'd need the bottle to be able to spell that one.  lol

well, if you've got mag phos as a cell salt, i'd try that.  start with 1 dose, wait and see.  if tick persists and your bowels are ok, take another dose an hour or two later.  it may have to be a hit-and-miss approach if you're that sensitive yet still feel like you need magnesium.

You are doing bone broths already. Have you tried nettles infusions? Nettles has calcium and magnesium in proper ratio.


I'm wondering if the citric acid, which is GMO-corn based is the issue with the Natural Calm.


How much Epsom salts in the tub?





I do a quart of nettle and RRL infusion daily.  I've never noticed corn being an issue with me.  I do consume a couple of other products with citric acid.


Any amount of epsom salts has that effect.  I was down to 2 Tbs in a tub full of warm water before I gave up on it.


You are an enigma! The primary electrolytes, sodium, potassium, calcium, magnesium and chloride must be in balance. I assume you are consuming adequate sodium. Salting liberally. With with calcium and magnesium covered, I'd focus on potassium. The most common cause of tics is a deficiency of potassium and/or magnesium.


I'd try some orange juice when the tic starts up and see if that helps.V8 or carrot juice is high in potassium too.


Excellent sources of potassium include chard, crimini mushrooms, and spinach.

Very good sources of potassium include fennel, kale, mustard greens, Brussel sprouts, broccoli, winter squash, blackstrap molasses, eggplant, cantaloupe, and tomatoes.

Good sources of potassium include parsley, cucumber, bell pepper, turmeric, apricots, ginger root, strawberries, avocado, banana, tuna, halibut, cauliflower and cabbage.





Due to the severe adrenal fatigue I experienced, I tend to low blood pressure which I assume is a result of  low aldosterone from the damage done to my adrenals.  Aldosterone controls your blood pressure and low aldosterone = low blood pressure.  That means you tend to loose sodium easily and hold onto potassium, whereas most people hold sodium and loose potassium.  Because of that, I've never looked at my potassium intake and always assumed it was fine.  Sodium, on the other hand, has been a huge struggle.  At the height of my illness, I had to take 1 Tbs salt a day in addition to salting my foods to be able to stand up without blacking over.  Now I just salt to taste.  My low blood pressure has greatly improved, but it does remain slightly below average.  I do have to take in more salt than the average TFer, and I assume this will be life-long as I think the damage is pretty much permanent.  At this point, I am as recovered as I believe I'm going to get.


So maybe it's potassium that is the issue.  Next time it happens, I'll try potassium instead of magnesium and see if that does it.



Hi KerryAnn. I've heard a story like yours before and what worked in that case was experimenting with the forms of magnesium. It was either magnesium taurate or glycinate that worked for that person, but I wonder if it would be different for different people. It wouldn't be cheap to experiment, so maybe potassium is a better next step.



Try reading this article it explains how important the type of Magnesium you take is and a multitude of symptoms it helps: Magnesium Miracle

Since I posted this, I upped my daily nettle and raspberry tea and that seems to have fixed the problem for now.  I'm going to try potassium if it ever happens again.




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