Comments - Candida 101 - Heal Thyself!2024-03-29T13:43:16Zhttps://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=2814160%3ABlogPost%3A8717&xn_auth=noThere are two schools of tho…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2013-12-30:2814160:Comment:902812013-12-30T21:42:13.420ZPat Robinsonhttps://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/PatRobinson
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<li class="webMessengerMessageGroup clearfix" id="wm:mid.1388425604788:bfaed0bd0c9f5dd630"><div class="clearfix"><div class="clearfix _42ef"><div class="_38 direction_ltr"><strong class="_36"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rick.parton.77" id="js_63" name="js_63"></a></strong><p>There are two schools of thought regarding candida as a "pathogen" vs. the "terrain" theory of dis-ease.</p>
<p>I'm of the second school of thought that…</p>
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<p>I'm of the second school of thought that dis-ease manifests as a symptom of imbalance. Some/many people believe that we need to "attack" pathogens as if that would eliminate the problem. I believe that we can make candida overgrowth obsolete by rebalancing gut microbials.</p>
<p>We have 500-1000 different microbials in the gut. When we add MORE different beneficial microbials the body can self-regulate. There is an issue with "die-off" if one has a really messed up gut/imbalance and introduce a rapid shift to the gut ph or a rapid shift in gut microbials with antibiotics (or probiotics).</p>
<p>I suggest that people start with just one tablespoon of kefir daily and listen to your body. Increase by the same amount each week or decrease to 1/4 teaspoon if diarrhea is a side-effect. Healthy people can drink 1-2cups of kefir without an issue. But, those with mercury or candida issues (they go hand-in-hand) only tolerate tiny amounts of homemade probiotics.</p>
<p>Many people suggesting "candida cleanse" want to sell *their* expensive probiotics. But, homemade probiotics have may more different microbials and are inexpensive. Thus, many are told "don't use ferments". Additionally, too many probiotics at once can lead to die-off and skin rashes for people detoxing too fast.</p>
<p>So... the sugar is consumed by the water kefir grains. Milk kefir has more beneficial microbials and homemade kimchi or kraut has more than any bottle probiotic.</p>
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</ul> In general, homemade probioti…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2013-04-07:2814160:Comment:779422013-04-07T12:26:52.656ZPat Robinsonhttps://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/PatRobinson
<p><span id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][1]"></span><span id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0"><span id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[0]">In general, homemade probiotics are much more potent than…</span></span></span></p>
<p><span id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][1]"></span><span id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0"><span id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[0]">In general, homemade probiotics are much more potent than commercial probiotics. Shifting the gut ph too much too fast can have increased die-off and those toxins often exit through the skin.</span><br id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[1]"/><br id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[2]"/><span id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[3]">There are two "theories" about candida (for simplicity, there are more within the conventional paradigm). One is that candida needs to be "attacked". And the other is that candida exists due to a cause and addressing the cause can make candida obsolete.</span><br id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[4]"/><br id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[5]"/><span id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[6]">Another variable is that candida sequesters excess heavy metals and killing off the candida releases those toxins. So... the path of "attacking candida" must proceed slowly. The commercial probiotics have about 7-10 isolated strains of microbials. Our gut has 500-1000 different strains of microbials. High doses of isolated probiotics is based upon the same theory of antibiotics - to attack the overgrowth of a "pathogenic" microbial.</span><br id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[7]"/><br id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[8]"/><span id=".reactRoot[1].[1][2][1]{comment582586508426844_582938708391624}.0.[1].0.[1].0.[0].[0][2].0.[9]">However, the collateral damage from both is a further imbalance of the gut microbials. Leading to repeated overgrowth of various microbials and resistant microbials developing.</span></span></span></p> You need to know your source.…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2013-02-28:2814160:Comment:737892013-02-28T17:51:56.422ZPat Robinsonhttps://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/PatRobinson
<p>You need to know your source. Raw milk is common throughout Europe. But, I'd be cautious about commercial raw milk sourcing. Price efficiency can lead to carelessness and substandard practices, perhaps. <br></br><br></br>I'd find a farmer who drinks milk from their own dairy cow and ask about the feeding practices (grass, hay, grain, GMO-feed, antibiotics, mastitis, hormones, temperature, inspections, Tuberculosis,, etc.)<br></br><br></br>Here is more about …</p>
<p>You need to know your source. Raw milk is common throughout Europe. But, I'd be cautious about commercial raw milk sourcing. Price efficiency can lead to carelessness and substandard practices, perhaps. <br/><br/>I'd find a farmer who drinks milk from their own dairy cow and ask about the feeding practices (grass, hay, grain, GMO-feed, antibiotics, mastitis, hormones, temperature, inspections, Tuberculosis,, etc.)<br/><br/>Here is more about <a href="http://www.realmilk.com/safety/" target="_blank">safety.</a></p> I'm new to all this and have…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2013-02-28:2814160:Comment:736502013-02-28T16:41:10.368ZCarolyn Ricehttps://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/CarolynRice
<p>I'm new to all this and have a question. I watched the videos about making your own kefir and both used Raw Milk. I live in Georgia (the country -- NOT the US state). Lots of people here use raw milk but boil it first. I thought boiling it kills the good bacteria. But I also know it can be dangerous not to boil it. I'm searching for a source of raw milk that I can trust. I know I sound ignorant, but can someone please tell me about your experience with Raw Milk, and if you can literally just…</p>
<p>I'm new to all this and have a question. I watched the videos about making your own kefir and both used Raw Milk. I live in Georgia (the country -- NOT the US state). Lots of people here use raw milk but boil it first. I thought boiling it kills the good bacteria. But I also know it can be dangerous not to boil it. I'm searching for a source of raw milk that I can trust. I know I sound ignorant, but can someone please tell me about your experience with Raw Milk, and if you can literally just take it straight from the cow and then make kefir or whatever?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p> I raw dairy both yogurt, milk…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2013-02-14:2814160:Comment:729162013-02-14T21:15:06.269ZDeborah Davidhttps://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/DeborahDavid
<p>I raw dairy both yogurt, milk and cheese, have just a few fillings, use probiotic, limited amount of wheat (but have never had a problem), bread is sprouted, garlic, bone broth. all was fine until the Dr missed problem which now I cannot get it out of me. This is a on going vaginal yeast going back and forth. If I stop the boric acid within a week it is back.</p>
<p>I raw dairy both yogurt, milk and cheese, have just a few fillings, use probiotic, limited amount of wheat (but have never had a problem), bread is sprouted, garlic, bone broth. all was fine until the Dr missed problem which now I cannot get it out of me. This is a on going vaginal yeast going back and forth. If I stop the boric acid within a week it is back.</p> Deborah, do you have or had m…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2012-12-29:2814160:Comment:692962012-12-29T22:40:35.611ZPat Robinsonhttps://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/PatRobinson
<p>Deborah, do you have or had mercury (silver amalgam) fillings? Did your mother? <br></br><br></br>Do you drink bone broth? What about fermented veggies or cultured food? <br></br><br></br>What about dairy? Raw or cultured dairy? Wheat/gluten?? <br></br><br></br>Have you tried topical coconut oil, garlic, kefir/yogurt? Topical Epsom salt compresses can help, ime. …</p>
<p>Deborah, do you have or had mercury (silver amalgam) fillings? Did your mother? <br/><br/>Do you drink bone broth? What about fermented veggies or cultured food? <br/><br/>What about dairy? Raw or cultured dairy? Wheat/gluten?? <br/><br/>Have you tried topical coconut oil, garlic, kefir/yogurt? Topical Epsom salt compresses can help, ime. <a href="http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/natural-alternatives-for-thrush" target="_blank">http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/natural-alternatives-for-thrush</a><br/><br/>More about Candida alternatives and "cleanses": <a href="http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/candida-alternatives" target="_blank">http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/candida-alternatives</a><br/><br/>I'd start here: <a href="http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/overwhelmed-where-to-start" target="_blank">http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/overwhelmed-where-to-start</a><br/><br/><br/>Pat <br/><br/><br/></p>
<p></p> I got a vaginal yeast infecti…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2012-12-29:2814160:Comment:690092012-12-29T21:42:30.743ZDeborah Davidhttps://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/DeborahDavid
<p><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Georgia','serif'; font-size: 10pt;">I got a vaginal yeast infection that would not go away. After six months of on and off Diflucan still had yeast - changed doctors and received 2 months of once a week Diflucan and still yeast. Doc then treated with gingin violet and boric acid. Well that got rid of it for the most part, but I have had to continue to use boric acid twice a week now for two years. If I stop the yeast comes back. Another doctor told…</span></p>
<p><span style="color: black; font-family: 'Georgia','serif'; font-size: 10pt;">I got a vaginal yeast infection that would not go away. After six months of on and off Diflucan still had yeast - changed doctors and received 2 months of once a week Diflucan and still yeast. Doc then treated with gingin violet and boric acid. Well that got rid of it for the most part, but I have had to continue to use boric acid twice a week now for two years. If I stop the yeast comes back. Another doctor told me that the because the first doctor only used the diflucan off and on it set up a resistant form. I am healthy, weight is excellent, eat the right foods. Because of the long term yeast infection the tissues have still continue to be very sensitive - any ideas to help those tissues heal completely and to get rid of the yeast once and for all. I was thinking of trying bentonite clay on tissues for a 30 minute soak. Or in a capsule??? At wits end here.</span></p> Cutler discusses the mercury…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2012-02-23:2814160:Comment:570312012-02-23T14:36:32.610ZPat Robinsonhttps://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/PatRobinson
<p>Cutler discusses the mercury release issues with cilantro/chlorella. Basically, chlorella has only one thiol (a chemical group containing a sulfur atom bonded to a hydrogen atom.), it does not bind as tightly to mercury as substances in the two thiol group. And thus cilantro/chlorella move mercury around, but do not necessarily shuttle it safely out of the body.<br></br><br></br>Cutler believes that the synthetic chelators are safer for this reason. My understanding is that DMSA chemically binds…</p>
<p>Cutler discusses the mercury release issues with cilantro/chlorella. Basically, chlorella has only one thiol (a chemical group containing a sulfur atom bonded to a hydrogen atom.), it does not bind as tightly to mercury as substances in the two thiol group. And thus cilantro/chlorella move mercury around, but do not necessarily shuttle it safely out of the body.<br/><br/>Cutler believes that the synthetic chelators are safer for this reason. My understanding is that DMSA chemically binds tightly to the mercury to carry it out of the body. <br/><br/>Personally, I'm not a supplement/synthetic chelator gal. But, I'm also not comfortable with that "Heavy Metal Detox" product, especially without a priority focus on optimizing nutrients for safe natural detoxification. Selenium, magnesium, B12, zinc, folate, etc. <a href="http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/yeast-intolerance" target="_blank">http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/yeast-intolerance</a><br/><br/>Cutler says that roughly 3-6 mos after removal, circulating metals go up, along with symptoms. Your body moves mercury around for a year or more after removal. But, the stored mercury is basically "stable" thereafter, unless we actively mobilize the toxins into blood circulation. The Catch 22 is that the stored mercury interferes (long-term) with the function of our organs, especially brain, thyroid and liver. <br/><br/>The further dilemma is that when we mobilize toxins, including mercury, if it doesn't excrete out of our body, it just redeposits and does new damage to our organs. <br/><br/>I don't know if mobilizing stored mercury is "worse" than candida. However, I believe that we can make candida obsolete by rebalancing gut microbials with whole food nutrients and decreasing our toxin exposures. <a href="http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/candida-101" target="_blank">http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/candida-101</a><br/><br/>Pat</p> Yeast is a manifestation of a…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2011-02-18:2814160:Comment:227842011-02-18T02:11:39.227ZPat Robinsonhttps://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/PatRobinson
<p>Yeast is a manifestation of an imbalanced gut. I'd focus on improving nutrients to excrete toxins more effective, rebalance gut microbials and decrease toxin loads. Do you have more specifics?</p>
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<p>The <a href="http://heal-thyself.ning.com/notes/14_Steps_for_Healthy_Guts" target="_blank">14 steps for health guts</a> is an easy place to start incorporating more whole food, nutrient-dense alternatives into one's diet.</p>
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<p>Yeast is a manifestation of an imbalanced gut. I'd focus on improving nutrients to excrete toxins more effective, rebalance gut microbials and decrease toxin loads. Do you have more specifics?</p>
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<p>The <a href="http://heal-thyself.ning.com/notes/14_Steps_for_Healthy_Guts" target="_blank">14 steps for health guts</a> is an easy place to start incorporating more whole food, nutrient-dense alternatives into one's diet.</p>
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<p>Cautions about <a href="http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/cleanses-1" target="_blank">"Cleanses"</a>.</p>
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<p>Pat</p> Pat, do you have any suggesti…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2011-02-17:2814160:Comment:227822011-02-17T22:54:51.095ZSherry Englandhttps://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/SherryEngland
Pat, do you have any suggestions for people with yeast syndrome or systemic yeast?
Pat, do you have any suggestions for people with yeast syndrome or systemic yeast?