Need Help With Candida - Heal Thyself!2024-03-28T21:23:22Zhttp://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/topics/need-help-with-candida?feed=yes&xn_auth=noTwo years after the post I am…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2011-08-31:2814160:Comment:427972011-08-31T20:14:09.845ZJennifer Sollecitohttp://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/JenniferSollecito
<p>Two years after the post I am reading this and I have questions for Pat (i hope she is reading this). Since the original post was for help with eliminating excess candida, are these food ADDITIONS what you recommend for this problem? <br></br>I think these are much easier than other things I have read such as, you cant have this, and you cant have that, and you must only eat this for 6 months...dang. Um I like to eat delicious fruit and lots of variety of foods that came from the ground.…</p>
<p>Two years after the post I am reading this and I have questions for Pat (i hope she is reading this). Since the original post was for help with eliminating excess candida, are these food ADDITIONS what you recommend for this problem? <br/>I think these are much easier than other things I have read such as, you cant have this, and you cant have that, and you must only eat this for 6 months...dang. Um I like to eat delicious fruit and lots of variety of foods that came from the ground. Elimination of these things for months or years at a time wont work for me.<br/> <br/>
<cite>Pat Robinson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/topics/need-help-with-candida?commentId=2814160%3AComment%3A5783#2814160Comment3683"><div>Basically, candida exists to protect us from mercury toxin overload (among other reasons-antibiotic damage to microbials, etc.). As you can improve your detox pathways and escort mercury out with chelating, the candida is expected to become "obsolete". It is present because it is serving the purpose to keep you from heavy metal toxicity, per my understanding. I'm no expert on chelating, I believe Tanya posted with more information previously. http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/topics/need-some-advice-on-detox?page=1&commentId=2814160%3AComment%3A2411&x=1#2814160Comment2411<br/> <br/>
The EASIEST most nutrient dense food to ADD for gut healing is <b>homemade fresh green juice/smoothies</b> a couple of times a day. This site, "Got Greens?" has easy recipes. <a href="http://gotgreensrevolution.com/">http://gotgreensrevolution.com/</a> Basically, you add any fruit and a handful of fresh greens to the blender and some water. Drink up. Do this daily and in two weeks, you'll feel amazing!!<br/>
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I understand the concern about sugars in fruits, but I believe in ADDing nutrients to support the body, rather than elimination diets, in general. The nutrients are necessary for many cellular, neurophysiological, digestion, absorption, detox benefits, in addition to keeping us from a sense of deprivation and "cheating" with nutrient-empty sugars. However, I believe that pasteurized dairy is not meant for human consumption, in any form.<br/>
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Another quick and nutrient dense food is <b>raw nuts and seeds,</b> and dried berries.<br/>
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The most important nuts are TWO Brazil nuts a day (for Selenium-critical for many chemical reactions in the body), Pumpkin seeds, Walnuts, Almonds, Pecans, Sunflower seeds (in that order of importance, essentially). I purchase them at Costco (or Earth Fare, Home Economist) and mix up about 10 pounds and put it big ziplock bags (lasts for a month or two). Then I just take them along when we leave the house. I never have to eat out suddenly when I'm hungry; and the essential fatty acids, and microminerals and nutrients are very important to replenishing your cellular and neurochemical functions. I buy dried goji berries, mulberries, gooseberries (at Home Economist) and dried blueberries for their significant vit C and antioxidant benefits. (They are very high in nutrient density.) Also, cranberries (Costco), coconut flakes (EF), and Giradelli 60% chocolate chips (Harris Teeter) for the mix too. The chocolate is probably my only daily indulgence. :-)<br/>
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Another addition is squeeze some <b>fresh lemon juice</b> in your water all day long, or whenever you think about it. The short version is, this helps correct acid-base balance of the body.<br/>
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And consume either Beets, Broccoli, Brown Rice, Carrots, Eggs, Garlic, Spinach, Tomatoes, Wheatgerm, Melons, Peppers, Cabbage, Onions, Papaya, Avocado, Mushrooms, Asparagus every day for the liver detox benefits. An alternative to include is Milk Thistle 'tea' infusions- made from whole leaves/roots.<br/>
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Foods to improve dopamine/serotonin/mood: chicken, turkey, fish, peanuts, almonds, avocados, bananas, yogurt, lima beans, pumpkin seeds, shellfish, eggs, chocolate, wheat germ, nutritional yeast, cabbage, cauliflower, beans, lentils, dates, papaya, strawberries, cherries, hemp seed. Include as possible.<br/>
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Choose mineral water, green tea, and yogurt with "Live Active Cultures" when you can. Flax seed and kelp are other things we could add too. I've been reading a lot about kelp/iodine as an essential nutrient to actively include in our diets, especially those of us with detox issues.<br/>
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Are you making homemade chicken broth and simmering for 48+ hours? Broth has tons of nutrients, minerals, vitamins, amino acids for gut healing. Drink 1 cup every day, more if you can!<br/>
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*I* suggest including raw, local honey, 1 Tablespoon a day for the benefit of increasing bifidum bacteria growth in the large intestine, which helps to rebalance the gut microbials. I know about "excess sugar feeding candida". My understanding is that honey is different. I'll try to find the research to link it.<br/>
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Eggs- especially yolks, sea salt, coconut oil (1 tablespoon raw, virgin), liver (1 ounce, grass-fed), Cod liver oil (1/4 teaspoon fermented), salmon (3 ounces wild Alaskan-Costco) are other things to include frequently (daily!). These are critical for gut healing, but I wouldn't advise using coconut oil more than 1/4 cup a day-max., as it kills candida and thus <i>releases bound mercury into blood circulation to redeposit into our other organs</i>. Same with kombucha. I drink a couple of ounces maybe each week, just for the detox benefits. But, no more than that.<br/>
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*****Also, <b>Epsom salt baths are the most healing thing you could do</b>, if you do NOTHING else. An Epsom salt bath daily would be the number one thing to consider. The Magnesium Sulfate helps digestion, absorption, detox pathways, neurotransmitters, sleep, immune system, all through skin absorption!! *****<br/>
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The other nutrients to evaluate are B12 and zinc, they are essential for stomach acid, thus nutrient absorption.<br/>
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Are you eating any wheat or other grains? I wouldn't recommend them, unless they are fermented overnight/soaked in an acid medium. I can post more info if you'd like.<br/>
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If you want the LONGER version...<br/>
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Start here about detox pathways: http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/topics/detox-obstacle-course<br/>
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And here are a few informal videos about detox pathways: http://heal-thyself.ning.com/video/video<br/>
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and here about evaluating digestion and stomach acid (beet "pink pee" test"): http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/topics/the-beet-test<br/>
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This thread about Healing the Gut with Food: http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/topics/healing-leaky-gut-with-food<br/>
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Nutrient Dense Foods: http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/topics/nutrient-dense-foods<br/>
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Foods to Help Phase I and Phase II Detoxification:<br/>
http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/topics/nutrient-dense-foods?page=2&commentId=2814160%3AComment%3A655&x=1#2814160Comment655<br/>
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check out <a href="http://www.eatingcultures.com">www.eatingcultures.com</a> to try and guess on some of your detox pathways, and figure out which nutrients will be important for you all. And <a href="http://www.detoxpuzzle.com">www.detoxpuzzle.com</a> to identify some of your detox pathways, nutrient deficiencies/needs.<br/>
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More about Candida and caut…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2011-03-11:2814160:Comment:254912011-03-11T22:08:04.245ZPat Robinsonhttp://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/PatRobinson
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<div class="text_exposed_root text_exposed" id="id_4d7a982370f3e1319846995"><span>More about Candida and cautions about "Cleanses":<br></br><a href="../../profiles/blogs/candida-101" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span>http://heal-thyself.ning.c</span><span>om/profiles/blogs/candida-</span>101</a><br></br><a href="need-help-with-candida" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span>http://heal-thyself.ning.c</span>om/forum/topic<span class="text_exposed_hide">...…</span></a></span></div>
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<div id="id_4d7a982370f3e1319846995" class="text_exposed_root text_exposed"><span>More about Candida and cautions about "Cleanses":<br/><a href="../../profiles/blogs/candida-101" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span>http://heal-thyself.ning.c</span><span>om/profiles/blogs/candida-</span>101</a><br/><a href="need-help-with-candida" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span>http://heal-thyself.ning.c</span>om/forum/topic<span class="text_exposed_hide">...</span><span class="text_exposed_show">s/need-help-with-candida</span></a><span class="text_exposed_show"><br/><a href="../../profiles/blogs/cleanses-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span>http://heal-thyself.ning.c</span><span>om/profiles/blogs/cleanses</span>-1</a></span></span></div>
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<div class="text_exposed_root text_exposed"><span>I believe we can excrete the toxins safely and gradually by supporting our natural detoxification pathways with whole food nutrients and rebalancing the gut microbials. Avoiding toxins and immune assaults helps to make candida obsolete natu<span class="text_exposed_show">rally so it doesn't keep returning again and again and again...</span></span></div>
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<div class="text_exposed_root text_exposed"><div id="id_4d7a98237152e9c77450693" class="text_exposed_root text_exposed"><span>~for topical relief, consider coconut oil, kefir, yogurt, ACV, baking soda, Epsom salt baths, lavender essential oil. (each separately)<br/><br/>These are not curative, just suppressive of the symptoms (manifestation of gut imbalance).<br/><br/><span class="text_exposed_show">Add bone broths, vit A, Vit D, vit C; stop any "cleanses" currently. Increase Omega 3, decrease Omega 6 fatty acids significantly. Avoid alcohol. Decrease stress.</span></span></div>
<div class="text_exposed_root text_exposed"><a href="http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/candida-101" target="_blank">Candida 101</a></div>
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<div class="text_exposed_root text_exposed"><a href="../../profiles/blogs/kombucha-candida-mercury" target="_blank">Kombucha- Candida- Mercury Issues</a></div>
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<a target="_blank" href="healing-leaky-gut-with-food" class="gs-title">Healing Leaky Gut with Food??</a> Hi. I am battling it too. I S…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2010-12-12:2814160:Comment:148522010-12-12T23:52:40.000Zlauralhttp://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/laural
<p>Hi. I am battling it too. I STAY FAR AWAY FROM FERMENTED ANYTHING! Totally flares me. I eat mostly veggies and plant based oils, nuts and seeds, loads of water, veggie juice and some animal protein (organic). I just started using Laucidin which is a monolaurin supplement derived from Coconut Oil. It is amazing so far. I am totally detoxing. I feel great. I am also taking a probiotic, and alternating tincture between Pau d'arco and Black Walnut. I just took bentonite clay today so I can't say…</p>
<p>Hi. I am battling it too. I STAY FAR AWAY FROM FERMENTED ANYTHING! Totally flares me. I eat mostly veggies and plant based oils, nuts and seeds, loads of water, veggie juice and some animal protein (organic). I just started using Laucidin which is a monolaurin supplement derived from Coconut Oil. It is amazing so far. I am totally detoxing. I feel great. I am also taking a probiotic, and alternating tincture between Pau d'arco and Black Walnut. I just took bentonite clay today so I can't say how it is working. I am taking salt baths and using sauna. Rest is vital. I really think I am onto something now. Of course we are all different. You need to mix and match your therapies. I do no fruits, potatoes, rice or any kind of simple carb. I also only use veggies as my carbs. No quinoa or buckwheat. I may try to add them back in a few more weeks.</p>
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<p>Good luck!</p>
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you offered these questio…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2010-09-03:2814160:Comment:108882010-09-03T02:24:45.000ZKim Keglerhttp://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/KimKegler
Pat<br />
you offered these questions... "Are you doing Epsom salt baths, lentils, liver? Milk thistle, selenium, magnesium, zinc? How much dairy and wheat?"<br />
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my questions are... Is taking Liver capsules suitable? And what form is best to acquire sufficient selenium, magnesium and zinc.<br />
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<cite>Pat Robinson said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/topics/need-help-with-candida?id=2814160%3ATopic%3A3561&page=1#2814160Comment5788"><div>Are you doing Epsom salt baths, lentils,…</div>
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Pat<br />
you offered these questions... "Are you doing Epsom salt baths, lentils, liver? Milk thistle, selenium, magnesium, zinc? How much dairy and wheat?"<br />
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my questions are... Is taking Liver capsules suitable? And what form is best to acquire sufficient selenium, magnesium and zinc.<br />
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<cite>Pat Robinson said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/topics/need-help-with-candida?id=2814160%3ATopic%3A3561&page=1#2814160Comment5788"><div>Are you doing Epsom salt baths, lentils, liver? Milk thistle, selenium, magnesium, zinc? How much dairy and wheat?<br/> <br/>
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Pat</div>
</blockquote> Baths, no, I can try but that…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2009-09-22:2814160:Comment:57902009-09-22T00:52:45.000ZSarah Thompsonhttp://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/SarahThompson
Baths, no, I can try but that's a challenge in my house. Lentils, yes. Liver, I don't have a good source of. Other supplements, no, but I can add milk thistle. I get a lot of local, organic vegetables, many of which I eat raw, plus I add a lot of molasses to my diet. I drink a ton of whole, raw milk, often with molasses, and eat a ton of yogurt which I make myself. I eat a bit of cheese, but not a huge amount, some in eggs every morning and the occasional home-made pizza or mac'n'cheese. It's…
Baths, no, I can try but that's a challenge in my house. Lentils, yes. Liver, I don't have a good source of. Other supplements, no, but I can add milk thistle. I get a lot of local, organic vegetables, many of which I eat raw, plus I add a lot of molasses to my diet. I drink a ton of whole, raw milk, often with molasses, and eat a ton of yogurt which I make myself. I eat a bit of cheese, but not a huge amount, some in eggs every morning and the occasional home-made pizza or mac'n'cheese. It's all Cabot cheddar, pretty much, so that is pasteurized. My wheat is pretty much limited to the whole grain bread that I make, but I have cut that out for a while to see if it helps. I have never noticed any sensitivity to dairy before, although I only drink raw milk and any cheeses we have are always very high quality, if not raw. That said, I can't rule it out. If I gave it up though, seriously, I don't know what I would do. The challenge of getting enough calories is a big one for me, barely weighing 105 when I am not pregnant. We just had a discussion abou…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2009-09-21:2814160:Comment:57892009-09-21T19:14:56.000ZPat Robinsonhttp://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/PatRobinson
We just had a discussion about this regarding ferments and candida: <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=14395120&highlight=homemade#post14395120">http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=14395120&highlight=homemade#post14395120</a><br />
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We just had a discussion about this regarding ferments and candida: <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=14395120&highlight=homemade#post14395120">http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=14395120&highlight=homemade#post14395120</a><br />
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Pat Are you doing Epsom salt bath…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2009-09-21:2814160:Comment:57882009-09-21T19:12:47.000ZPat Robinsonhttp://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/PatRobinson
Are you doing Epsom salt baths, lentils, liver? Milk thistle, selenium, magnesium, zinc? How much dairy and wheat?<br />
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Are you doing Epsom salt baths, lentils, liver? Milk thistle, selenium, magnesium, zinc? How much dairy and wheat?<br />
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Pat Hmm, the mothering thread is…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2009-09-21:2814160:Comment:57872009-09-21T19:09:11.000ZSarah Thompsonhttp://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/SarahThompson
Hmm, the mothering thread is interesting. I am avoiding yeasty food but still eating fermented stuff. I feel totally overwhelmed by the conflicting information out there. All of the diet recommendations seem very logical, and all very contradictory.
Hmm, the mothering thread is interesting. I am avoiding yeasty food but still eating fermented stuff. I feel totally overwhelmed by the conflicting information out there. All of the diet recommendations seem very logical, and all very contradictory. I believe my well has tested…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2009-09-21:2814160:Comment:57862009-09-21T19:05:42.000ZSarah Thompsonhttp://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/SarahThompson
I believe my well has tested negative for arsenic, so that's hopeful. Certainly I have mercury fillings and when I get really depleted I can taste the metal in my mouth. I have no idea how I would handle that given that I AM pregnant and nursing. I am starting to feel pretty depressed about all of this, actually. I have the best diet of almost anyone I know, and yet I feel like my nutrition is terrible!
I believe my well has tested negative for arsenic, so that's hopeful. Certainly I have mercury fillings and when I get really depleted I can taste the metal in my mouth. I have no idea how I would handle that given that I AM pregnant and nursing. I am starting to feel pretty depressed about all of this, actually. I have the best diet of almost anyone I know, and yet I feel like my nutrition is terrible! Sarah, I'd look at heavy meta…tag:heal-thyself.ning.com,2009-09-21:2814160:Comment:57852009-09-21T18:28:54.000ZPat Robinsonhttp://heal-thyself.ning.com/profile/PatRobinson
Sarah, I'd look at heavy metal issues then.<br />
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This thread "Candida is a helper. It is keeping you healthy!" <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=952566&highlight=candida+friend">http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=952566&highlight=candida+friend</a><br />
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might help. Or this one:…
Sarah, I'd look at heavy metal issues then.<br />
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This thread "Candida is a helper. It is keeping you healthy!" <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=952566&highlight=candida+friend">http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=952566&highlight=candida+friend</a><br />
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might help. Or this one: <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=1134431&highlight=candida+friend">http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=1134431&highlight=candida+friend</a><br />
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Or this one: "Heavy duty dtoxes and cleanses while NOT pregnant or nursing?" <a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=1134781&highlight=enema">http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=1134781&highlight=enema</a><br />
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This is a fascinating article about arsenic as an endocrine disruptor. <a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/~toxmetal/research/projects/Arsenic.html">http://www.dartmouth.edu/~toxmetal/research/projects/Arsenic.html</a> And an interesting book, "A Small Dose of Arsenic". <a href="http://www.asmalldoseof.org/toxicology/arsenic.php">http://www.asmalldoseof.org/toxicology/arsenic.php</a> Apparently, arsenic is in our ground water in many parts of the US. <a href="http://water.usgs.gov/nawqa/trace/arsenic/">http://water.usgs.gov/nawqa/trace/arsenic/</a><br />
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